I mean, it sounds so obvious, but it's also something, it's also something I really want to throw out there, because if somebody like Thorn, I'm not sure exactly what you have, like at the top of your head, but there's all sorts of things that you can teach. And I, I think that we really underestimate like how much we can teach and learn from each other. So that can be anything from obviously when people say teach, they have things technical things come to mind, especially academic stuff. 'cause that's what teaching is associated with in school.

But, if you want to learn another language, English is super popular and you can make a good bit of money teaching English online just by having group conversation because a lot of people in a lot of different countries really care to learn English, but don't really have any access to a native speaker. So even just being able to speak English at the level of a native speaker, you've got something that is definitely marketable.

But you should also really teach what you want to teach online. And so, I have just some ideas on the screen as you can see. So that's, you could teach specific skills, like fixing your car, but it could even mean tuning a piano. I mean, I know that's very specific, but I think that's sometimes kind of the point.

Cooking, if you've got a specific recipe that's in your family or something that's really delicious that you know how to make. Like I live abroad, I tend to make chocolate chip cookies a lot and bring them to parties and stuff because nobody's ever had homemade chocolate chip cookies abroad. So I can just take my Toll House bars and make the Toll House bar mix. And nobody knows how to make that, for example, in Austria. So you could have like a one two-hour session doing that. Or if you're a good cook, you could do like a whole class that could be instead of one two-hour session, it could be like 10 weeks where we meet for an hour and a half over lunch every time.

Yeah, I have exercise, music, singing, piano, trumpet, those are just ideas. Clarinet. I did clarinet in middle school, so I'll pause here. I think you guys get the idea. I really think that online teaching is going in a direction where it's moving away from what's academic because you can already get tons on YouTube, you can already get tons obviously in school and at university. It's already available for most of us.

But things like hobbies or specialized knowledge, I even, I don't know if you saw one of the hobbies I have, like everything you'd ever want to know about Star Wars action figures. And the reason I actually have that is 'cause I have a really good friend of mine, her dad collects Star Wars action figures and just has a whole room in his house full of them and knows all of their history.

It's like something that you would never think, and the thing that's really interesting about that is if you're the guy who's been doing this for 10 years, like you're gonna find people who are really interested to learn that from you because you've been doing this for like 10 years. There's nobody else in the world who knows this from you. And even though it's not something I'm gonna be able to like start a new career with, people are curious and interested. So I think there's something there.

So yeah. Erica, what were you thinking about teaching if you have already an idea? So kind of like prototyping for front end development, different graphic design skills. Oh, great. Oh man, we, I'm so glad you're here. We are, we are definitely gonna talk. Okay, that's good to know. Are you a front-end developer? No, I haven't made it there, but I've been teaching myself and I went to a bootcamp and I've done some personal web design freelancing.

Okay. And so you're, you're a designer. Yeah. I come from like a design thinking type of background mindset. So I'm really like in the creative world, really want to bridge creative techniques with tech, so yeah. Okay. Oh, that's great. Oh, yeah, that's really good. I think you're gonna have a ton of interest for that, for one. And two, like yeah, that's, that's so modern and that's so creative. Like that would be super fun. That's cool. That's a, that's a great idea.

Thorne, what were, what were you, I don't know if you have any thoughts, do you have any thoughts like what you would, if there's something that speaks to you? Well, I've been in pharmacy for about like 11 years and, what I really want to do is integrate holistic health. Okay. Pharmacy. Okay. So what does that mean exactly? So in, I guess in the, in the US it's more pharmaceutical-based and I wanted to incorporate more of the western methodologies and integrate it with, east, well, I guess east, east and west.

Right, Right. I get it. Combination too. Yes. That's, that's cool. So, okay. That's very cool. Okay. That's, yeah, that's super cool. So you've been in pharmaceutical tech for 11 years, so you really are an expert on that to some degree too. And you can, you can see and sense out of like all this experience, like what it is that we can build in kind of, in a spiritual sense in addition to a biological medicine sense. Mm-Hmm. Okay. Oh, that's really cool too. Oh, very nice. Cool. Cool. No, I think that's also a great, I think that's a great idea. I think that's a really great idea.

Cool. Okay. Well then, yeah, you guys are, you guys are good there. You two at least, are in a very good spot there. So the next thing, oops, next thing I do want to highlight for if you want to teach online, and I'm gonna get to a little bit more of like the technical details, in, just a minute of okay, this, this may seem basic, but actually this is really, this is the hard part. And I'll get to the technical details of like how to do it online in like a few minutes.

But the, so create, create a plan, basically the, how do you want to teach a class? So you have this idea to teach, to integrate like Eastern or spiritual spirituality into medicine, as well. That's really cool. What does that look like more concretely when it's a, a plan? I'm not asking you to answer that right now, I'm just, this is the question that's kind of the, this is, I think this is the hardest part.

So you know how, if you're, if you're serious about teaching a class online, like I would take a piece of paper either on your computer or like a physical piece of paper, whatever, however you work better, and kind of like think how would I want to teach this? What does it actually look like? Is it one, I have here one two-hour sessions or is it eight two-hour sessions or is it eight one-hour sessions, or is it one two-hour session and a five-hour block on one Saturday?

It could go all sorts of ways. So it's really, the great thing about like online teaching as opposed to most things is, you can kind of set your own schedule or you can design the class how you want to kind of have it divided up. And so if you have one section that you're like, oh, that's gonna take longer than everything else, like really, we kind of want to have some conversations for a couple of hours, and then there's like this big thing I want to do. You can structure it like that. You can have an hour a week for three weeks and then on the fourth week it's like five hours on a Saturday.

That's just an idea. Yeah, five, five hours can get pretty long unless it's like sometimes professional-based. It, it just depends. You gotta know. 'Cause it, because we're talking about teaching class online, but three, four hours, that's certainly possible. Five hours is also definitely possible. I'm just, I'm just helping you think about it.

And then, but what is very crucial is that you have to think about what it is that you want to do in the class and then write it down in kind of the session-based structure. So session one, length of time that it's gonna be one hour. Session two, length of time, it's gonna be one hour. And as a general rule, I would recommend keeping them steady so it fits nicely into people's calendars if you're doing more than one session, maybe with like one exception or something like that.

And then you have this, you, you kind of make yourself your sheet of paper where you say, okay, session one, like what we are gonna talk about is, again, yeah, integrating spirituality or alternatively like session one, like for Erica, I mean, it depends on where you're expecting people to come in from, but if it's nothing, session one can be, two hours, like the basics of HTML, something like that, session two is, using Figma or I don't know what design tool you use, but some kind of design tool to see how things are arranged.

And so you kind of have these are the things that I really care to transmit. So list them out and then design your sessions around them. And then, for each session, okay, I've got this big thing, this really big tool for design, I'm just using Figma as an example. I have to teach people how to use that. Okay, this is what they're gonna need to learn to use Figma. I think that's gonna take 15 minutes. I think this is gonna take 45 minutes, and kind of roughly block it out.

It's amazing how far a little planning goes in making sure that people are having a good experience and, and you do the job that you want to do, and you have the impact on people that you want to have. So yeah. Erica, do you, are there any specific design tools you use? Yeah, so I want to start with Figma for prototyping and then, like try going into Adobe XD, try to give alternatives so people can kind of pick which design tools that they like better. Yeah, absolutely. That's brilliant. That's really good.

No, that's great. Yeah, I think that's, I think that's a good idea. But, and those, neither of those, I mean, especially Adobe, I, I mean, I haven't used it, so I shouldn't say that. But I have used Photoshop and I did not learn that quickly. So I'm assuming that it's the same with the design tools. Is that fair? Yeah. I haven't used Adobe XD. I've used Figma, but I've used other Adobe apps so I kind of know what it's like to use several apps, their software apps, but then you find something else and it might be a bit easier or it's a less robust system. So it's kind of just giving people options.

Right. Absolutely. No, that's a good idea. No, that's a great idea. Yeah. And so, and so, yeah, so for something like that, again, you kind of say okay, like I would assume that would, I mean, again, this is something that you gotta know for you. And one of the great things about teaching a class online is you structure it yourself. It's really your own creativity and entrepreneurship that come and affect your, your vision, your creativity, your entrepreneurship, like the class is your product, and it's what you give.

So I'm just throwing out ideas. But, I imagine that you would probably have, like if you're doing Figma and Adobe, then you have probably actually two or three sessions at least on each of them. And so, you have to figure out, okay, what is it that I want people to learn in Figma today? And what do I want people to learn by the end? You know? And so you have that whole time plan. I put here, each session should have five to eight bullet points associated with it. And basically that's kind of just these are the big things I want to get done.

'Cause when you're pre-planning, you don't have to run through like every single minute of everything and you kind of update as you go along. Like you do one session, oh, I didn't finish everything I wanted to finish. Or alternatively, we finish a little earlier than I plan, like next time it'll be longer. I need to find some new stuff. All that kind of works out together. So you update as you go, but having like a clear plan of this is what I want to cover, is absolutely crucial. Not only for the success, but for if you want to teach online, like for example, at PassionClass, we definitely are gonna require that we see that first because we want to make sure that people are gonna have a good experience.

So, and then the final point I want to make here, oops, is that I want to make sure, make sure that a class is interactive. So, doing things like software live, like using Figma or Adobe Live, and people can ask questions as they go. Like even that question asking opportunity is enough. But people usually aren't looking for just like lectures. This is how you do it if you're taking a class online. Because if that's what they're looking for, like they'll go to YouTube or they'll go somewhere else.

So if people are looking for live classes, then definitely interactivity is a necessary component of it. So, okay. Let me pause. Any questions so far? Any thoughts, anything you guys want to share about what you've been thinking for you? Okay, I'll go ahead, I'll move on to the next thing. Oh, and this is something, so you guys are both in really good shape with this already. I think, well, I shouldn't say that. So this is something that we should think through together. So as you learn or as you know what you want to teach, you also have to know how you're gonna teach it.

So, does the plan of something that you would teach, does it one, kind of reflect how you learned it yourself? So for example, with some of these, oh, look at that. I'm getting a thumbs up 'cause I did this. Does your plan to teach it like Figma, Adobe, I'm guessing you did that partially through, learn, like learning it yourself, like through using the product. And so, how is it that you can build in using the product yourself, into what it is that you're teaching? If you were sitting in the class and you were doing what you suggested, if you're doing what you are planning to do, would you be interested in what you're doing or would you be, hmm, okay?

And you, you should be really honest about this to yourself. You should really try and visualize yourself, like sitting as a participant where somebody's doing what your plan is, and then that kind of, that process really allows you to be, yeah, as I mentioned, like honest with yourself and give you a good idea of how it's gonna go. And I have here at the bottom to make that really honest, do record yourself for a 30-minute lesson, and obviously it's not gonna have that interactive component unless you're able to pull in friends or family to help you out with that.

But then watch yourself and think okay, how did that go? What can I learn from that? And just that one time of 30-minute practice in advance, well, really, I think you really learn a lot from it. So Thorne, would you imagine something like a, like an east-west, medicine union, class being like primarily conversation based? Or how does that work, do you think? I know, I know you're just starting, so, yeah. Well, I guess my dilemma is that I want to teach people who don't speak English. Ah, okay.

And I want to, yeah, I kind of want to bring my Western knowledge to the East. I see. Oh, very cool. So you, would you be teaching in English anyways or do you speak another language? I speak another language. Okay. And can I ask what that is? Khmer. Okay. And where, where is that spoken? In Cambodia. Ah, okay. Very cool. Southeast Asia? Yes. Okay. Very cool. Oh, I'm so interested now. I see. So you'd be, you'd be looking to, I, I'm sorry, I misunderstood what you were saying before. So you're looking to integrate Western medicine into Eastern practices? Yes.

Okay. That is what you said. And I just, as I, I assumed it was the other way around, so that was entirely my bad. Okay. I see. Okay. Very interesting. Okay, very cool. How did you come up with that idea? I wouldn't say that Western medicine had failed us, but there's a vast difference between healing modalities. And I think if I were to bring the knowledge I have here, there, it would just become something bigger. I see. Okay. So you think, okay, I see. Interesting. Now I have a question, why do you think that is it that you have more knowledge here and that's why you can't bring that knowledge, that knowledge over there, here, but because you have the specialty in Western medicine, and that's why you can bring it there?

Mm-Hmm. Yeah. Okay. That's fair. No, that's fair. That's, that's really cool. That's brilliant. That's super cool. No, I definitely, I think that's a great idea. Very cool. Anything else you want to say? I see immunity again, so I will continue then. So this is where, this is where the actual practicality, like parts will come in. So where, I'm from PassionClass, full whatever you call it, like Upfrontness, I'm the CEO of PassionClass. However, I would tell you, I definitely, I mean this completely, honestly and completely, truly, I really think that we are the best place that you can teach a class online.

I actually don't know a ton of platforms that you can teach a class online. I know of literally, honestly, I think the best alternative is YouTube. Because, you can have a big audience on YouTube, you're not gonna have it, you're not gonna be able to teach a class live, and so you're not gonna get that live feedback and they're not gonna have that live contact with you. Plus, to make any money on YouTube, you have to get like tens of thousands, if not more of viewers. Versus like on PassionClass. If you get one person, you're making money.

But, so, so let me, let me tell you a little bit about PassionClass really quick. I, I'm, I don't know, are either of you guys familiar with us already? No, this is my first time hearing about it. Okay. Sounds good. Then I'll just, I'll start chilling from the beginning. So, so we are a marketplace, for basically online classes. So at how that works is, it works just like Airbnb. So if, if you're at Airbnb, or excuse me, if you, if you have, if you have an apartment and you want to rent it out and make some money, you can do that. You're kind of like a solar entrepreneur. And then Airbnb kind of connects you with somebody who's looking to rent it.

Or just like Etsy. If you make like a product, you make like some kind of craft and you want to sell it like Etsy connection with people who are looking to buy that or buy craft products. The way PassionClass works is exactly the same thing. It's for classes. So if you kind of use your own creativity and entrepreneurship and cleverness and knowledge and experience like both of you guys and want to teach a class, then PassionClass is the place where people can come and sign up for that class.

And one thing that is different about us, 'cause I like other people, like there's Prep Lead, for example, like those are all tutor, actually those are mostly academic subjects, if not entirely academic subjects, if I'm not mistaken. But secondly, they're, they, they're tutors. So it's about like they're looking for one-to-one. At PassionClass, what we're trying to do is help you connect with groups of people. There's a couple of advantages for that, but the certainly one is price from the side of the participant and earnings on your side.

Because, if you have a couple of people, obviously you're gonna do better than if one person's, signed up and paying, paying you. And the second, the second advantage in, in my opinion, and I think in the vast majority of situations this is true, is kind of that group atmosphere and group participation. But the, as I mentioned, like it, we are really looking for people who are entrepreneurial and, kind of looking to do something new, versus like signing up to tutor.

So what I'm saying, what I'm, what I mean by that is specifically is we would love you to, both of these ideas are very creative, class ideas. And that's really what we're looking for. We're looking for people who have really cool ideas of what it is that they want to teach, and they can design something that's like totally from scratch. So it's not like you're really gonna fit into this like box of Hey, we have this, we need you to teach this, whatever class. It's more like you figure out what it is that you really want to teach, like come up with something cool on your own, use your own artistic and entrepreneurial capabilities, and then we'll help you connect with people.

And so that's, that's kind of what we do. Passionclass.co. Worth noting, it's a.co. It's not a.com, so that's worth noting it. Let me move on here. Next question, that we get all the time, whenever, I talk to people about this is how much money am I gonna make? That is a fair and good question, and it is something that we should address. So first thing to mention is, so the way it works on PassionClass is you entirely set your own prices. Again, that's just like an Airbnb or an Etsy, like Airbnb, you have to know how much you think, your apartment's worth.

Airbnb might give you some recommendations, but you set your prices. And so that's how it works on PassionClass. As well, just like an Airbnb or an Etsy, we charge a, a fee when the participant reserves a spot, in the course. And then right now we are supporting a max of six people in courses that small, I say courses, I don't even like that word. I mean, classes really 'cause course sounds like so rigorous. So we support a max of six people in classes.

The reason for that is, is what I was saying before is that that interactivity, is so crucial and it's, so, yeah, it's really, it's really important. Already once you get to 12 or 15 people pulling people in can become a lot harder. And so we, if you're looking to just listen to something like YouTube's a place that you can do that already. So, we, we are focused on having like small, groups, like definitely groups, but small groups come together. And so right now we support, a max of six students.

Those, there is flexibility there that we can, we can talk about if you had some sort of special situation. But that's, that's what we're doing right now. We, for how much you will make then. So if you, if you have, I'm just hearing a number, $15 an hour, that's just a hypothetical number. You have to know what you think the right price is. It could be $30 an hour, that is absolutely a possibility. It could be $50 an hour, that is absolutely a possibility. You have to know what's, it could also be, it could also be seven or eight bucks an hour.

Especially if you think you're very, if you're looking to do like a fun kind of, I don't know, baking thing, like that would be pretty, that would be inexpensive, if you're doing seven or $8 an hour, that's inexpensive. But we do have some people doing it that inexpensively as well. And, and I will, of course, they're out there that the, sometimes if you're inexpensive, like people are a little more willing to sign up, but I'm throwing out a $15 an hour number. That means that if you get three students to sign up for your class, that's $45 an hour. Right, right.

Now what I tell people is price for two students, because it's very hard to predict as you kind of come up with your own innovative idea of like what it is you want to teach. Like Thorn, such a cool idea. I never even thought, I never even thought, and by the way, Thorn, it's worth mentioning, of course, if you're targeting Cambodians, you should, you should price for that market. So, potentially somewhat less, I don't really know exactly. You probably know better than me.

But we are, we are talking about how much money you'll make if you're teaching a class online. I'm talking to you specifically, about Passionclass.co, right now. So Passionclass.co, how much money will you make, if you are teaching a class online? So the, I just said you do your own pricing, we support groups from one to six students at present. That number is potentially flexible. You just have to talk to us if you really think that it should be more for some reason. But that's what we target.

And the, as a hypothetical example, if you're doing $15 an hour per student, then if you get three students, then you're making $45 an hour. So you can do that math, you can do that math for yourself. Price tip, I tell people to price for two, and if you're new to the platform, I would not expect six students to sign up. Those reviews make a big difference. And so, if you're new, expect a little bit of a, expect it to be, a little tiny bit of a slower start. Because people, I also look at reviews.

So let me pause here and see if there's any questions about this. When you're saying price for two, do you mean like price as if you're going to have two people in the class, or one price should be for two people? Like if someone's kind of sharing the platform or something? Got it. No, I mean, I mean, a price to have two people in the class, that would be my advice to start. So that means, like for example, I don't know, where do those balloons come from?

So the, what, what I mean by that is, yeah, so if you're, if you're, if your target, you say, I need to be making 50 bucks an hour to teach online, fair enough. And I would say, price for $25, 25 per student, per hour of the class. And that's how I do it. I kind of think of it. We also show the hourly price. I will show you that in just a, a minute. Actually, let me even do that just right now. So like this, one second. This is, this is actually, this is a person who does our Spanish class. It is very generously priced in my view.

But he, so this is in Euro right now. Sorry, let me change this to dollars. So he prices his, very generously, at, $7 and 72 cents an hour. I'm, I don't know, I didn't come up with a number of 93, but, so it's 7 72 per hour, and that means per student, so your total price when signing up for the course is 93. Again, that's, that's very generously priced. But the point here is it we're gonna be demonstrate, we're gonna be showing people an hourly price. And so that ends up being, I think that's how you should think about it as well.

But, so I would look, I would look to have a price that will you set your kind of target hourly number and the, the person will then, and then imagine having two students for that, that price. Or again, but do what? I don't, I don't know where these balloons are coming from. Again, do what also price, what you think is right, like also you can set higher, set lower initially to get more signups. I wouldn't, I wouldn't even say set lower initially. Like I would say price for two, like price and number that you're gonna be happy to do with, and just expect a smaller group at the beginning until you get some reviews.

Cool. Any other questions there? Erica? Are you back? I'm back, yes. Okay. I don't know, it just kind of froze for a minute, so I had to come back. Okay, sounds good. No, no, no, I think, I think that, I think that's good. I'm trying to think any, I'm trying to think any, yeah, so I'll, I'll move forward. If you guys got questions here, please let me know. Okay, Bri, let's talk about some technicalities really quick. When you'll get paid, how you'll get paid, class dates and reviews. And actually there's one other thing I want to throw in here. Like how will you do your video conferencing?

So if you have your own, actually I can just give you the short answer. The short answer is like right where we're talking right now, we will give you a link that you can use, as your video conferencing, solution. So that'll be right here on the platform. And we're, that's, that's, there's nothing you gotta do for that. So we'll send you a link. You'll also have the, you will have the power to, mute other people or like kick somebody out if there's an issue or something like that. If you're, if you're, if you're teaching on the platform and everybody else will kind of just join one of these links, it's pretty straightforward.

It'll look exactly like this conversation right now, but you'll have your, you'll have your own room. So that's the technicality of where you'll meet, the, how, how you get paid. So we do need like a US, or European bank account where we can easily send money. We are also open to sending a, a, a US based check to a physical address. Yes, but that is certainly not preferred. And also like any cost associated that with that, come out of, I'm sorry, any costs, any costs associated with that will actually like come out, which is gonna be like a dollar.

But, that's how that would work. So, but we can, we can pay pretty much just through bank standard bank account transfers to US and European accounts if there's something, something weird, we can talk about that, if we get that far. But yeah. Second thing, how frequently will you get paid? So again, what we, we are an advertising platform. So basically we are, we are a marketplace, where, consumers come to sign up for classes. And so, this money goes directly to you, like we are, we also provide like this service so that customers can feel very confident when they sign up for the class, like they're gonna get the service.

And so, for example, like if you don't hold, if you, get paid, but then don't hold the class, like we can send that money back to the customer. That's really important. And so you do get paid after the class. The, it depends on how sessions work. So the, the, if you have, we say if, if, if it's a one session class, you should get paid shortly after the one session, shortly, meaning a, a a matter of days, not hours, for example. The s the second, way is if it's like a multi-session class, we, you get your, you get paid for the two sessions that you did after your first two sessions.

Let's say it's eight sessions long, so you get paid for the two sessions you did after your first two sessions, then, it's on a monthly basis. So then it's like a monthly basis. So you, so that might work, like if you started the middle of the month, that would be, for example, you get paid the first two sessions for a, a second, after the second four sessions, we'll send that over, and then the final two we'll send at the end of the third month. So that's kind of the, the rhythm that we would, be paying at.

It's not even, we are paying, I mean, we're not even paying. We're, what we're literally doing is transferring that money from the customer to you. But we do need the customer to have the opportunity to let us know, for example, if you didn't show up. That's, that is important. So, and if, if sessions fall out, for example, there's, you won't get paid for that session, for example. But we, and we send that, we send that, like if you miss two sessions, we're gonna send the customer back some of that money, and you're gonna get paid less, just totally what you would expect, totally how you would expect.

But the, we do have like full set of terms and conditions online, which you can also take a look at if there's anything unclear there. And then finally, as I mentioned, reviews are really important. And so reviews, it is worth noting that if you teach a class, those reviews will, if students write a review just like Airbnb, like those reviews do become public. So actually, so far we've gotten almost exclusively, almost exclusively five-star reviews. So that from people who have done it. So that's good. People are pretty happy, with how things go.

And you set your class dates. One thing we are actually probably about to start experimenting with is, letting people sign up where you give like a range of dates that work and then, customers can actually, or class participants can actually like select within those. And so because we're we think that there's actually like a number of people who are thinking about signing up, who are like, oh, the state doesn't quite work for me. So we're trying to actually expand that to make it more flexible so we can capture more people.

So there might be some modification after signup. Like if we get two or three people signing up for different dates, we'll do like an email thing and be like, Hey, can we resolve this somehow? And, and see what we can do. But that's like upfront, you set your own dates. And then we're, we're actually looking to become like more flexible on what dates are, so we can, we can connect with more people. Any questions about kind of these technicalities real quick? No. Cool.

And by the way, Tokara Cambodia, how different is, are time zones? Oh, I said Tokara. I'm so sorry. I meant thorn. Yeah, I have no idea. Because I think Cambodia, that's gotta be least Pacific time. Oh, you're Pacific. Okay. That is helpful. I would imagine it's probably about, it's probably still, I, I don't know, but I mean, obviously you can find the time, right? I mean, worst case scenario can be morning for you and night for them, or worse, vice versa. Or, like there's a time that you can make it work anywhere in the world, which is really nice.

Like even a 12-hour difference, which is as far as it can possibly be. Like you get an 8:00 AM and an 8:00 PM and that's, that'll work, you know? Okay. Oh, until car, I'm so glad we're, I'm, I just brought that up. 'Cause the technicalities. So right now, the platform is not in Cambodian. However, I can, I can tell you with very high competence, I guess I mentioned I like the CEO. If you were to have, if you were to put on a class and it, it was, it was aimed at Cambodians, it would not be a problem. We would, it would take a little bit, it would take like a couple of days from our end, but we would have no problem adding, Cambodian as a supported language. So it comes up appropriately in their web browser. So that should not be a problem.

Okay. So, so, but it, but if you go to, if you go there now, it will, it'll show up in English, depending on what, unless you have a different language that is your default. Okay. Cool. Okay, let me move on. I'm doing my intro a little late. But I, so I'm Joe, I am, founder, CEO at PassionClass. I am kind of throwing this out there. I, for a couple of reasons. One is that you can kind of hopefully see why I'm like really passionate about the, online education space and like the online classes space in specific.

So I have a master, in computational science from Harvard. I do, I then I actually went back and got a second bachelor, in Africana and Latino Studies, religion, classical studies from City University of New York. Before, like before the first masters I had, I did a degree at the University of Alabama. And then I'm actually also currently doing a master's degree in, theological studies at the University of Vienna in Austria where I live, as I mentioned, you can see it's nighttime here.

And then, I speak German Span, I speak German and Spanish, and I also speak intermediate French and Turkish. I throw that out there because one, I'm like really passionate about classes and I know those are all very academic. I'm, I think the university is a great space to learn all this, like academic stuff you're interested in. And then all this other stuff that I'm interested in, like honestly, even music, I don't think it's that good of a space, good of a space, but like language classes, I've learned languages through private language schools and private teachers.

I, baking and stuff you gotta kind of teach yourself and all sorts of stuff, like I mentioned, like fixing a car, kind of throwing that out there. Like web design, something like that. But that is, that is a great place because you, you can potentially get that at the university if you're at like the right person in the right semester. But you've already gotta be enrolled. And by the way, signing up for university is one really super expensive. And two, two, you gotta get like admitted so that you can sign up for classes when really it's just I just want to learn this skill, you know?

And you mentioned you did a bootcamp. It's kind of the same thing. It's I really care about the skill. I don't really care about the piece of paper that says you have a Bachelor's of Arts in this, you know? And so I think that's kind of my background and where PassionClass came from. Exactly. And as I mentioned, I have a deep ability to, I, I deeply believe in our ability to empower each other through teaching and learning, and again, especially among non-academic, stuff. So. All right. It sounds like you have a question.

Okay. So when you say the teaching, so right now I'm currently a student. I'm working on my master's in education, so I'm trying to, learn the experience and get the experience before kind of like maybe do myself a intern. Yeah. So I'm wondering, do you have to have your license for the state you're in? Or how does that work? Do you have to have the credentials? Thank you so much for the question. So answer that question. Absolutely not. To be very clear, to be very clear about what PassionClass is and what most people are looking for, teaching online is this at present? It is definitely not a platform where you're, you're, it's, you're not getting a, like it's not accredited, it's not accredited through the government.

You're not gonna come out with a degree or a high school diploma or something like that. Like if you're a part participant, it's about learning kind of specific skills. So it's a great place where we can like trade knowledge with each other. And, people learn how well it's going through kind of like reviews, for example. But it's like at the end, like we do actually provide certificates to, kind of like a Coursera, the, Coursera will give you certificates. But yeah, a lot, I'm not so much worried about the certificate. It is more of the skill learning the skillset and how to teach because it'll be my first time.

And so I'm, my lectures and the things that I'm doing. So I got a master's in, I'm working on my master's in, teaching and CRI and curriculum. So it's I'm kind of getting in the swing of like learning to be able to do the lectures for myself. So I thought this would be a great opportunity. I'm so sorry I'm late. A great opportunity to kind of grow and get the experience, to be able to teach and do it myself. Absolutely. I totally agree. So what, what kind of fields would you be looking to, teach in? I'm not quite sure I like history, science. Okay, so you're an, you're, you're an academic person.

Yeah. Yeah. So you're looking, But anything different, like business is cool. Yeah. So anything kind of different or whatever you have, I'm willing to try to get the skill and learn. Thank you for that wonderful question. Let me answer it by backtracking a little bit. So the way PassionClass works is it is, it, we are an entrepreneurial place just like Airbnb. Like if you have a space that you want to let people stay in, you want to create and let people stay in Airbnb lets you do that. If you want to make crafts and then sell them online, like Etsy lets you do that.

PassionClass is about you, you thinking about what it is, what it is that you a lot about and what it is that you would care to share with other people. And then, kind of creating your own class. So, I can tell you, I mentioned this before, if you're a native English speaker, we actually do, I know, I can tell you right now, there's a ton of interest in English conver in English group conversation classes, like tons of non-native speakers are very interested to have the opportunity to prac. And it definitely sounds like you are a native speaker. Mm-hmm. Tons of people are very interested to have the opportunity to practice with native speakers.

Okay. And so that's a great option if you're, thinking about trying something new, I can, I can tell you that there's interest in that for sure. And it doesn't have to be grammar based or anything. It can, I mean, if you can do it and you want to throw some in, that would be terrific. It sounds like you probably could actually. But it's, I would say, if you're, unless you're doing something like that, I would say figure out what it is that you know really well, like what it is that you care to share. I'll tell you what, one class I do, I do, this is actually, this counts as a class, even though I don't get paid to do this one.

Another class I do is, how to study abroad in Europe as an American, because I currently live in Vienna and I've spent about five years in Europe. And so a lot of people are interested to be oh, I want to go travel, but I don't really know how to get started. And I'm like a little nervous and, is it gonna be so much money? And how would I even get if I'm gonna do it through a university, like how does that possibly work? And so I teach a class on that where I can help people. I can help people kind of walk through and I can walk them through. I've, I've only taught that one time actually, to be clear. But that's the one I'm like super excited about right now.

'Cause I was oh yeah, like they're both going, they thought, like they both, I had two people in the class and they're both going to Europe, so, that was cool. So, you know. Okay. What, is there something that you know a lot about that you would want to share with other people already? Or if nothing has to mind, first of all, you can reflect on it. I'm just, it's just food for thought. And second of all, again, if, if not, and you're interested in having the experience of teaching online anyways, I can tell you that group English conversation with like a little bit of grammar to build in if you can and want to practice, is a great place to start because there's definitely people who are interested in that. Okay. Okay.

When I get it all, it's just the thoughts and when I get it all together, I'll just kind of pretty much, let me put some thought to it. Okay. No, that's great. That's how you should do it. I think that's the right choice. I think, reflect, what, figure out what your thoughts are. I will, yeah, I'll come back to that. If you can do, get getting started. Okay. You could go ahead and proceed. I'm sorry, I didn't mean to interrupt. No, absolutely. I app No, I appreciate it. I'm glad, I'm glad we were able to address it.

So I'm gonna show you if I'm PassionClass. You know what, right now it actually just got a little bit simpler. And that was actually just this week, but let me show you anyways, this live signup demo is a little bit, it's pretty simple right now, but that's, that's good. So you come over here and so for example, can you guys see the, the webpage? Mm-Hmm. Okay, perfect. Yes. So, you can come over here in the bar on the right and click on Teton PassionClass, for example. There's other ways to get there as well.

Or you can just go to the website at passionclass.co/en/teach, passionclass.co/en/teach or come over here and click Teton PassionClass. And you can, kind of read through some of our reasoning why you should potentially do it, but scroll to the bottom and click get started. We, we do have an earnings calculator tool, pretty basic and straightforward. You can play with that and see, how much money you would make. Then, but just start here. I'll do this. For me, for example, my email is [email protected]. And what name do you, propose for your PassionClass? How to teach a class online, for example? Yes, I accept this is what changed today.

You come over here and you continue to step, step two, we have switched to a wait list, system. So send us the information, tell us, Hey, I'm ready to sign up for a class and this is what I want to teach. We have a, we have some people who are already trying to teach classes, and so we are kind of processing them. And so you don't have to do this kind of work. We have just, we have now a a wait list. We will get back to you as soon as, we can, but I will show you what it is that we will follow up with.

What we want to know is what it is you're gonna be doing in the class. So we want to know that you thought through the idea that you want to teach. We are just a platform for you to connect with class participants. Like that's what we are. Like we are not actually, we're, we're it's not like we're your boss, like you're an entrepreneur on PassionClass. But we are looking to also kind of make sure that the classes that we are sharing with potential class participants are good ones.

And that, they can be whatever it is that you care to teach, but we want to know that you've put some thought into what it is that you will be teaching. So basically we want to see basically that document that I told you about, which is to show that you have given some thought to what you should teach. So we have like a proposal, here's some ideas of things that you could teach. Give us your title, your name, your email, what you would expect. We do have like a one to two, one to two sentence description, but then you come over here, like when you're gonna teach at the times. And then we want you to describe your class, like what it is that you're gonna be doing in that class. And if you can break it down by session, that is particularly helpful.

So that's what we're really looking for you to give us. We actually don't even require that it be this exact form, but we do need all of the information that you'll see on any of the classes online, of course. So this form contains all that information, but you can type it out in an email, however you want to do it. So the, we'll, we'll work with you there, but we'll send, we'll pretty much, if we connect we'll, we will send you that form and we'll say Hey, let us know, give us the information that we need to know that you're serious about teaching a class.

So people don't sign up for your class and then you don't show up and we have to send the money back. It's kind of, it's not good for anybody. So that's, that's how that works. Exactly. I'm trying to think if there's anything else. So that's, that's what we'll do. Oh, and then I've already moved on actually here. Oh, did I not, did I already, did I jump ahead? Yes. And then we will, so we will, after you do the form, we'll have like just a, when I say an interview, it's literally a five minute conversation on this.

We, we want to kinda have you use the platform on the, on the one hand, like the tool that we're using right now to talk, and two, we just want to talk to you for two or three minutes and, and, make sure you're serious. Like it's truly, I say interview, it's, it's like five to 10 minutes. It's not, it's really not that bad. But we just, want to make sure you're there. Again, this is your space, but we just want to make sure that when like consumers find your class that you're serious, and that you've given it some thought. So that's all we're trying to do.

And then if that all goes well, we put up your, put up your class, we'll send you a class page, which will be private. You'll, it won't be publicly findable. You'll be the only person with the link and you'll need a password to look at it. And then you'll just like read through it and be yeah, this is, this is how this should be. Give us a thumbs up. And then one thing that is worth noting, we do also have a new policy that we actually, before we make it public for us, we want you to make it public. So we want you to share on like two platforms.

When I say platforms, that mostly means social media, but we're flexible on what that means. But we want you to share your class on at least two platforms. And that's because one, again, we're, we're looking for people who, we are looking for people who are, in like doing work that they're, sharing class they think is really interesting, exciting. And so, we want to be, again, we're, we're looking for high quality stuff, so you should be happy to share it. We, we think that's a fair approach, but the more important reason that we're doing that is, for example, if Tokara, Thorn and Erica, you guys all teach a class, you might get somebody out of your own friends.

But just as likely it is, if Thorn says, Hey guys, I'm teaching this really cool class for people in Cam, Cameroon, let's actually, let's take out, let's take out, let's take out that example. But let's say he was teaching it in the US or something, in English, then the, all Thorn posts her own class, but also through that, all of Karras and Erica's friends are gonna see, get on the platform and see the, your classes. And so it's not only so that your friends can find it, it's really about your friends finding a different class, but offered by somebody else. And so you're kind of paying, you have to pay it forward. So we are, that, that is something we've, we are giving a try right now.

And exactly, so that's, we, we are, so we, once you, share on two platforms, let us know and then we will make it publicly, findable. Like your link will work for everybody, but you need the specific link and then it will be publicly findable. And then finally, we do also have the option to do a free sample session. Just this is totally free. You can, you can, we have meetups, we have event rights, et cetera. We have, things on, on PassionClass, like free classes, that you can join. And so those free classes actually, like people tend to, we, we actually have like pretty good conversion.

Like people are able to see oh yeah, this is something that I'm interested in and I really connected with this teacher. And so, if you do a, if you do like a free sample session of like one hour, that's, that's your completely your choice by the way. That is completely optional. But it is, that's a good option to, to help people, find and connect with you. And so we, we do recommend that you do that. Let me pause here and then, and by the way, and then of course we'll do, we'll do the rest. We'll do, if you do those things which, not even all of those things.

Again, if you do the two posts on, social media platforms, then we will do, our very best to connect you with students. And we've had significant success there. Of course, just like Airbnb, we don't guarantee, just like an Airbnb, we don't guarantee anything. Like maybe the price isn't right. Maybe, Thorn, we have not tried in Cameroon before, or I didn't say Cameroon, I meant Cambodia. I'm so sorry. But we haven't tried in Cambodia before, so it would be a new experience for us. Like things like that. Like I, we're not making any guarantees, but it's also not that time intensive on you.

It's like listing like an Airbnb, to design the class, it's gonna take you two or three hours, over a two week period. And, and so we're gonna want to make sure that, you've done that. But apart from that, should be pretty, should be, should be pretty straightforward. So let me pause there and see if we got any questions or anything like that. I had a question. So were there, a limit to how many types of classes you could teach? There are not. There are, there are, there are absolutely not. So what is, what is your other idea?

Oh no, because you brought up concept of, teaching English as a second language. So yes, that is absolutely an option. That is, you can absolutely do that. You can absolutely do that. So, so I would say it's a, it is a great place to teach a class. We are making it really easy. Like you don't have, 'cause what people used to do are still doing is they get like a hundred thousand Instagram followers and then somehow convert those to students. And I'm like, well, that would take 10 years. No, thank you. And so, we're, it's really, it's a good place to, to get started and yeah, absolutely.

Like Thorn, if you are interested in, teaching English as a second language, for example, like it's a, it's a, it's a good option. There's definitely people who are interested. So, but all, I think all your ideas, like truly, I think the front end design one is super cool. Yeah, and you can, if you, there's a couple things you know about, like you can absolutely teach a couple. Cool. So let me pause here for questions. I really appreciate your guys' time. This has been that you guys were a great group. Thanks, Joe.

But by the way, Erica, both Erica and Thorn, I want to let Erica, I think your idea is a terrific idea and I absolutely think there's a place for it. I think it's a great idea and I think it's something you should really think about, think about. And the other thing is like at this point, I'm not recommending that you like quit your job. I do recommend that you kinda do this on the side, but if things go well, when you get, you build your reviews, you can see where this takes you, you know? So you know that if you get some reviews that, eventually, you'll be able to do as much or as little as you as you want to do. Um, Great.

So I, okay, so I kind of got the ideal, so I was thinking if not the English spoken words that teach a poultry and teach them to build their emotions off of spoken words. Okay, so, so what does that mean? I didn't, not, I didn't fully understand. So poetry teach poetry. Mm. Okay. Absolutely. That's an option. Absolutely, that's an option. Okay. I think it, I think it's a good, I think it's a good idea too. I think that that is my, I I can tell you my gut reaction to that if you want to know.

I do kind of come at it from a, a perspective of, I, I think you will find people who are very interested to do that with you. I think you're, again, that's a little more niche. And so niche tends to mean, people are very engaged. But you have you tend to have like smaller class, so, it might, it might take a little like longer, but that, that is, I don't for that mean to be that. I don't mean that for that to be negative at all. Like truly I think it's a great idea and, I think it's something that you should pursue. I think it's something that you should pursue.

Like if that speaks to you, I mean, that's just one, one idea. And what I would say to you is as you're thinking through ideas, like figure out what it is that you would do in each session and see after you've built out kind of your plan of okay, this is how I'll teach it. If it still speaks to you, if you're like, yeah, I like all of these sessions, this session's gonna be fun and this session's gonna be fun and this session's gonna be fun. If they all sound fun to you, then you should definitely teach it. If you, after like kind of thinking through it, you're like, it doesn't speak to me quite as much, that is no problem. And, and grab another topic. So that's how I would kind of think about it.

That's a great thing that you just came up with an idea that spoke to you, let it sit for a little bit, work through that plan of like how we'll divide up the sessions and then, and see how you feel about it as soon as you do that. So typically, how many sessions are you allowed to do in the timeframe? So, that, that's a wonderful question. I appreciate your asking. And I'm sorry I had Erica leave before you asked that, because that's such a good question. The, the, so it can be as few as one, like truly, if you say spoken word poetry, like that could, I could totally see that be like one, two hour session.

If you want it, that's just an idea. Another possibility is, sorry, what am I thinking? Another possibility is that that could totally be eight sessions. What I would say is you want people to sign up again. So it's kind of like if you, if you do, if you do it and have a successful session, you can have like a, if you wanted, you have a new batch, come in and do that same class again. Or if you're like, oh, this could be like a 16 week class, I would say split it up into eight and eight or even less. It could be like six, six and six. Does that something 18? It does because if you see 18 weeks, people are like, Ooh, that's a big commitment.

But if it's like six weeks, eight weeks, but I would say keep it under eight weeks. And then if you want to do more, just offer a sequel class. We, it's just a contractor, right? No, it's not a contractor. We are an advertising, we are an advertising platform. So we are a marketplace where you sell your services and customers buy them. So, you handle taxes yourself. There we go. Thank you. So thank you and have a blessed day. Thank you. You too.